Vinland Saga Season 2 – 20

I don’t deny that it’s a first-world problem, but when you cover anime the way I do, it’s no small dilemma the season has forced on me.  Which to watch first, Vinland Saga or Golden Kamuy?  My original thinking on this was that it was best to watch Vinland last, as it tends to wreck me for pretty much anything else.  The counterpoint is, Vinland is so intense and deep that I feel like it’s something I should experience while as fresh as possible.  Not to mention, maybe with its more absurdist tone, Golden Kamuy is the right tonic when I’ve just been wrecked.

Either way, covering both on the same night is brutal.  As indeed was this episode of VS, which for this week I decided to start the evening with.  The sheer pointlessness of all this is really what leaps out at you, in addition to the brutality.  A king stealing from a loyal subject who didn’t do him any harm.  A vain landowner throwing away scores of lives in a battle anyone with a shred of sense knew was unwinnable.  And that’s not even considering the layers upon layers of atrocities committed against the slaves, culminating in the murder of Arnheid and her unborn child in a fit of childish rage.  What a fucking world these people live in.

Snake sits at the very nexus of the moral spectrum of this story.  What part of his belief system causes him to stand by a man he knows to be a fraud and a murderer in a hopeless battle?  What causes his man to honor that decision, and to face that battle themselves?  On the battlefield (which in this event is a charitable description) Snake seems primarily vested in trying to keep a few of his men alive.  The enemy isn’t just destroying, they’re revelling in it – this is karma for the likes of Fox and Badger, surely.  Snake’s decision to call a retreat is the smartest thing anyone has done in this entire dumb day, and once the abandoned Ketil is struck down there’s no one to stand in its way.

Once more we hear Canute bemoaning that his armies aren’y following his orders not to commit atrocities (like pursuing retreating and defeated farmers and goatherds).  He draws no sympathy for me, even setting fratricide aside – his protestations at idealism fall on deaf ears.  He started this fight (out of greed) and he bears the responsibility for the behavior of his men (who will certainly not be punished for violating his orders).  The only reason the some of the retreating forces survive is because Thorgil arrives on the scene – at the fortuitous moment when Wulf has gone to confirm his suspicion that Ketil has been killed on the field.

How can you look at Thorgil and Canute fighting and feel an ounce of sympathy for either man?  Thorgil is a brute, and this is a brutal skirmish, though Canute walks away from it in better shape than any of the other direct participants.  He can’t rival Thorgil in battle but he’s good enough to keep himself alive here, which most in his royal position wouldn’t be.  I’m still not really clear if there was any motive to this for Thorgil apart from killing the king for the sport of it, but the unintended consequences at least stopped the carnage a little faster than would otherwise have been the case.

As for Arnheid, it was pretty clear from the events of last week’s episode that her story was about to reach its conclusion.  She may have roused herself long enough to ask the key question – where would they go, even if she lived – but at this point I don’t think her survival was a matter of her own will.  She’s just another stalk of wheat ground in the mill of slavery, not even important enough to be a statistic.  But to Einar she was everything.  The problem is that she’s a reason for him to live, but that doesn’t cut both ways.  I don’t think Thorfinn talking of Vinland while she still lived would have mattered, but her words certainly hardened his conviction that there was no other option for the rest of them.

Thorfinn has come a long way, truly.  His desire to spare Einar the burden he carries is so strong it drives him to tears.  Snake bringing Ketil around was the ultimate test for Einar, and it forced Thorfinn to resort to force.  But that’s nothing compared to what he might be forced to do after presenting himself to Canute.  I’m with Leif, it’s a foolhardy decision, far more than Thorfinn owes anyone he left behind.  But this is the course he’s chosen for himself, to save lives to make up for the ones he took.  Canute has taken what he came for, but presented with the chance to press Thorfinn into his service I have a hard time believing he’ll simply let him sail away.

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8 comments

  1. h

    Note for anyone reading the manga up to each new episode – the anime is now doing some sequence breaking and you should avoid reading the manga until the season ends. (Right now I’m a bit annoyed by the sequence break, because we don’t have the full understanding of Thorfinn’s motivations here. But I’m avoiding passing too much judgement, because Yabuta has generally been pretty canny in his decision making and maybe having everything contextualized at the end will make it more powerful.)

  2. S

    I watch GK and Insomniacs after VS for the same reason.

  3. S

    Great review, I definitely don’t think Thorgil has any motive for wanting to kill Caunte except glory. Thorgil is a character that just represents the “value system” that the vikings stands for completely like Thorkell ( there are a few more characters like that lbut without the charm. He just wants to fight and die as boldly and “gloriously ” as he can so that he may one reach Valhalla with no motive in life beyond that.

    I’m not worry that anime is changing a few dialogue and moving scenes around again. It does it all the time and has always worked fine so far imo. I liked Thorfinn remembering Caunte’s words from ironically ep 1×20 here before deciding to confront him a bit more then hoe he comes to that decision in the manga.

  4. S

    I did the Raeliana, Golden Kamuy, Vinland Saga, and Insomniacs circuit. Raelina was fun, Golden Kamuy had its usual mix of humor and seriousness. After that I was ready to watch VS with Insomniacs as a nice cool-down.

  5. S

    GK’s WTF usually makes me laugh out loud, which is why I watch it after VS’s WTF.

  6. Looks like I’m not the only one wrestling with this dilemma.

  7. M

    Something I just thought about.

    An element seldom discussed in the pointlessness of this conflict is the farmers themselves.

    Like, THEIR livelihoods aren’t threatened. I’m pretty sure they would keep working, its just they would be paying their share of the crops to Canute directly instead of Ketil.

    But Ketil talked them into throwing their lives away despite the fact their livelihoods aren’t at stake.

  8. R

    Yeah, watching Vinland Saga really makes you think that living in those ages was pretty shit.

    You can get killed anytime even if you’re not doing something wrong, you can get robbed easily, you can be slave anytime.

    Really felt for Einar here, even someone like him would want to kill after seeing his loved one dies like that.

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